Client Educates Cops on the Fourth Amendment | They Don’t Listen | He Wins in Court

There’s a dispute between a store and a customer. The store calls the police, reporting something that’s not a crime. The police show up to investigate the said non-crime. They demand ID. Now like many states, West Virginia does not have a “stop and ID” law. However, if they have reasonable suspicion a crime was committed, and that a particular individual committed that crime, they can perform an investigative detention which can involve forcibly obtaining an ID from a suspect. So what is the crime? Can the alleged crime of “trespassing” be used to detain and ID a shopper who has not been asked to leave the store, and who has not been given the opportunity, or even allowed, to leave the store by the responding police officer? 

On January 10, 2021, my client, John, went to Walmart, during all the insanity that shall not be discussed. He was not committing any crime. He felt he was being treated unfairly. He was just trying to buy some products and was in the process of checking out. But Manager Karen at Walmart called the cops on him, reporting that he was refusing to wear a thing she wanted him to wear, and using some bad words. A police officer responded, and this is her body cam footage. If a non-crime was reported, usually they are investigating a potential trespassing situation. The problem with that is, many states, like West Virginia, only penalize trespassing where a customer was given the opportunity to leave, but refused. If the person even offers to leave, and the cop says, no you can’t leave, give me your ID or you’re going to jail, is that legal? 

Here’s the police report narrative:

Here’s the motion to continue the criminal case hearing:

Here’s the motion to dismiss submitted by the prosecutor:

Here’s the footage filmed by the client:

Update: here’s the 911 call audio from the Walmart Karen:

3 thoughts on “Client Educates Cops on the Fourth Amendment | They Don’t Listen | He Wins in Court

  1. It’s pretty bad when dumbass cops don’t know the laws. I hope “Karen” at Walmart gets fired, the dumb blond cop gets fired and Walmart has to pay a hefty lawsuit settlement. The guy has plenty of witnesses.

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